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What’s The Best Honda 2 Stroke Dirt Bike Size For You?

Interested in getting a Honda 2 stroke dirt bike, or just want to know more about the history of Honda?

In this article, I’ll show you the two-stroke dirt bike models you can pick from, which one is best for you, and why it’s important to choose the right bike. 

2002 Honda CR125R with FMF Fatty Pipe
My old 2002 CR125 with low hours

What are the best Honda 2 stroke dirt bikes?

While Honda doesn’t currently make any two-stroke dirt bikes, there were many years where they had the most competitive bikes in multiple classes. The best dirt bike depends on your needs and preferences.

Do you even need a motocross bike? All of these Honda 2 stroke dirt bikes are motocross bikes, which are made for racing, so they’re not good for beginners.
If you’re confident in your basic riding skills, let’s look at all of the Honda’s 2 strokes, how they’ve changed, and how to know which is best for you.

CR80

The CR80 is an 80cc Honda 2 stroke motocross bike that’s made for racing in the kids class, although it’s slightly undersized. It was made from 1980 until 2002 when the class was bumped up to 85cc for a max engine size limit.

It may only have an 80cc engine, but it packs a lot of horsepower in it. However, it has a very narrow powerband.

2001 Honda CR80R 2 stroke dirt bike for kids that want to race motocross

Simply put, it has virtually zero low-end torque, very little midrange power, and almost all of the power is up top when you “get on the pipe”. This gives you that big “hit” of power, making it feel like an “On/Off” lightswitch because the power is so abrupt.

So, the CR80R is fast, but it’s much harder to ride than a trail bike, as well as other 80cc 2 stroke dirt bikes that have a power-valve. The CR80 doesn’t have a power-valve-tuned engine, which can help smooth out the power and make it easier to ride.

CR80 big wheel expert

Stepping up to the CR80 Expert big wheel model, it’s basically the same Honda 2 stroke dirt bike as the CR80 small wheel, but with bigger wheels and tires. It also has a slightly taller seat height, longer wheelbase, and stiffer suspension set up for bigger riders.

The Honda 80 big wheel 2 stroke is best if you’re too tall for the small wheel model, but it’s also built for the supermini class. In amatuer motocross racing, the “Supermini” class is big wheel 85’s (19/16 inch wheels) with engines up to 112cc – modified with a big bore and/or stroker kit.

1995 Honda CR125 2T dirt bike

CR85

When the 80cc class changed to 85cc, the new Honda 2 stroke model was updated to the CR85. It has a slightly bigger engine with more power, and the styling was updated.

It has new plastics, gas tank, and graphics, giving it a more modern look. The CR80 was made from 2003 until 2007 when Honda stopped making it.

2003 CR85 small wheel two stroke dirt bike with black wheels
2003 CR85

CR85 big wheel expert

Just like the CR80, the CR80RB Expert is the big wheel version. It has the larger 19/16 inch wheels compared to the 17/14 inch wheels on the small wheel.

It’s a good transition from the CR85R if you’re not ready for the CR125 full-size 2 stroke dirt bike, but is just about as fast because it’s so light. The suspension is set up well if you’re in the 80-120 pound weight range.

Honda CR85 big wheel 2 stroke motocross bike
2005 CR85RB

Honda 2 stroke 125 changes over the years

The CR125 has gone up and down through its history for being a great 125cc 2 stroke motocross bike.

It become great in 1985 and was the class leader until the mid-’90s when Yamaha finally stepped up their game. The 1993-1997 CR125 has a great engine package with good overall performance.

1995 Honda CR125R What's The Best Honda 2 Stroke Dirt Bike Size For You?
’95 CR125

The CR125 aluminum frame change

Then, in 1998 things changed. Taking after the 1997 CR250, the 125 went to an aluminum frame, along with some changes to the engine.

Handling was not good compared to the older steel frame – it was much stiffer. It didn’t have great power, being peaky but not even that great. The carb and engine were also much harder to work on because there’s much less space to get your hands in there.

The slowest 125 2 stroke dirt bike ever made?

Maybe you’ve heard of the 2000-2001 CR125 being infamous. It got an updated, although still bulky, aluminum frame with some tweaks to the engine.

Is the 2001 CR125 the slowest honda 2 stroke dirt bike ever made?
Cheap 2001 CR125

It handles fairly well, but power on a stock CR125 in the years ‘00-’01 was not good. I know because I still have one.

Is it the worst 125 ever made? Probably not, and there are actually some things you can do to make it run more like a… YZ125.

Things like: a newer year airbox, power valve pin mod, and cylinder/case mods to improve the air velocity.

2002-2003 CR125

These years are similar because they have a newer frame and updated engine. Overall, a little bit better than the previous generation, but still lacking low-end and midrange torque compared to most other 125 2 stroke dirt bikes in its class.

2002 Honda CR125R 22 What's The Best Honda 2 Stroke Dirt Bike Size For You?
Honda CR125 is a common bike that loads up

2004 CR125

Honda tried an electronic power-valve, but apparently it didn’t work very well because it only lasted one year in 2004.

2005-2007 CR125

With a revised engine, Honda was starting to figure out their 125cc two-stroke mx bike, but it was too little too late. It might not be as good of an engine as the 2006+ YZ125, but it’s a great bike, even if it is harder to work on.

Honda 2 stroke 250

Honda was dominant in the 250cc 2 stroke class as well from 1985-1996. Then the 1997 Screamin’ Eagle CR250 came out, and it became a work in progress.

1989 Honda CR250R What's The Best Honda 2 Stroke Dirt Bike Size For You?
1989 CR250

1993-1996 CR250

These years are still good race bikes if you just freshen them up. Suspension internals, fluids, and a fresh engine will give you a solid 2 stroke motocross bike.

The problem is that parts are getting harder to find for the older CR250R. Newer model year parts are not interchangeable for the most part.

1997-1999

The engine was decent, but the new stiff aluminum frame made it harsh and handling wasn’t as good. Is it rideable? Yes, but it’s not as forgiving as other model years.

1997 Honda CR250 first year of the aluminum frame
1997 CR250

2000-2001

A lot of owners really like this generation of the CR250 because it was a solid and reliable package. The newer frame was a little more forgiving, and the engine made pretty good power from low-end to top.

The 2000 has a Keihin PWK carb, which is easier to tune the jetting than the Mikuni on the newer model years.

2002-2007

The last generation CR250 has the best chassis as far as handling goes. However, the RC valve engine lost some bottom-end torque.

With that said, you can make it a good engine with some cylinder tuning and re-jetting.

Honda 2 stroke 500

The “man’s class” for motocross was the 500cc 2 stroke open class, and the Honda CR500 is still a brute to ride today. From 1985 to 1996 the CR500R got minor updates almost every year.

1984 Honda CR500 What's The Best Honda 2 Stroke Dirt Bike Size For You?
1984 CR500

All of these changes added up to a better riding and handling bike by the later years. By ’96, Honda didn’t make any more changes until it was discontinued in 2001.

1997 Honda CR500R 2 What's The Best Honda 2 Stroke Dirt Bike Size For You?
1997 CR500R

Which one is right for you?

What are your goals for dirt biking? Are you brand new to dirt biking? If you pick the wrong bike, you might end up getting hurt and regretting it. It’s my goal to inform you as best as possible so that you have more fun riding but stay safe.

Your first dirt bike or just getting back into riding?

If you’re a beginner, I highly recommend you start on a 4 stroke trail bike rather than a less-forgiving 2 stroke motocross bike.

New to MX?

Do you already know how to confidently ride a dirt bike but are new to motocross? The CR125 is best to start racing MX because it doesn’t have too much power and will teach you how to ride better

Experienced rider?

I would only recommend the CR250 if you’re an experienced rider that can handle the extra power. It’s a lot easier to get out of control with a 250cc 2 stroke, so you need to be a better rider to keep it on two wheels. 

The CR500 is a sweet dirt bike, but it’s more of a novelty or if you’re racing a vintage class race. 

When did Honda stop making 2 stroke dirt bikes?

The last year Honda made a 2 stroke dirt bike was in 2007. It ended their CR85/Expert, CR125, and CR250 lineup.

With that said, these are the Honda 2 stroke dirt bikes that you can still buy used:

  • CR80R
  • CR80R Expert
  • CR85R
  • CR85R Expert
  • CR125R
  • CR250R
  • CR500R

Is Honda making another 2 stroke?

Honda was the leader in making 2 stroke dirt bikes come to an end in AMA pro racing. Yamaha was the first to come out with a 4 stroke for racing, but Honda has been and is the brand that wanted to kill 2 strokes.

Will they every make another? As of right now the answer is a definite “No.” It would take a new generation of owners to change that.

Honda vs Yamaha 2 stroke dirt bikes

The battle between dirt bike brands will never end, but that’s a good thing. If there’s no competition, then companies won’t continue to advance in performance and technology. 

Depending on which year bike you are choosing, Honda’s 2 stroke dirt bikes might not be as good as Yamaha.

From the mid 80s to 90s, Honda made a better 2 stroke overall, but after 1996, Yamaha figured out how to make a powerful, reliable, and good handling 2 stroke. 

How to ride a 2 stroke dirt bike safely

Whether you’ve never ridden a 2 stroke dirt bike before or you’re still trying to figure it out, there’s some key techniques you need to learn. 

Proper clutch and throttle control are important to riding with confidence and control, but learning proper body position are just as critical. I want to give you a free guide that will show you how to do this. Tap here to learn how. 

Andrew

Saturday 21st of October 2023

I’m 5’6 w boots on adult weigh 160 lbs 170 with gear and ride the local vet track. Is a Honda 150r expert going to have enough travel and be good if I get heavier springs or should I just get a 250? I’m new to gas dirtbikes I ride electric dirtbikes now like the size of an 85 with 40hp but I want a bigger bike so I’m buying a gas bike. Thanks!!!

Kelley Fager

Monday 23rd of October 2023

Hey Andrew, I'm the same height and 145 lbs. I've had a couple 150R Expert models and they're fun to ride in the woods or pit bike tracks, but if I were to get another motocross bike for jumping, I'd most likely go with a full-size 125 or 250F. They're going to be more stable due to the larger wheels and longer wheelbase. Hope that helps.